Reminder: Please only be in 1 Gaiscioch in Guild Wars 2

Greetings Everyone,

We're fillin up fast and we need more space in our house. I need you all to check your guild window (Except Elders and War Council) and Leave all but 1 of the Gaiscioch rooms of the house. Not just "Stand Down", but "Leave Guild". 

How to leave rooms

1. Click the guild you wish to leave
2. Click "Stand Down"
3. Click "Leave Guild"

If you are in Gaiscioch or Gaiscíoch please ensure you are in only 1 of the 2 family rooms of the house.

We need each member to only hold 1 spot in our 2 family rooms so that we can continue bringing new people into the family.

Additionally I am going to start removing inactive members who have not logged into the website in 45 days from the active roster until the time that alliances come into play.  At that point we will increase it to a 90 day laps. If at any point you get removed from the family in game roster simply click "Request Reinvite" on your command center to be reinvited. This only effects the active in game roster and does not effect your membership in the family at all. Thank you.

Foghladha

Really really really looking forward to alliance chat or at least something like the "/join tuatha" we had in Rift.

Aren't we all Mulch.

On the topic... has ANet even considered increasing the guild size limit?

This IS the increased guild size. Originally it was 100 people. We fought for the better ppart of a year to get 500.

Ouch... why such a restriction anyway?

Good question Pyre, all I ever got from them is more members = more technical requirements = more slowdown.

Pretty much for the same reason that you rarely see truly global chat channels in these games, and why the Trading Post will only show you 10 items at a time. The computational complexity of scaling player services is exponential, so with larger numbers, it becomes quite easy to exceed the capacity of your servers. If you think about it, the servers that handle things like guild chat are under a never ending DDoS attack. As an example, look at something simple like hitting the 'G' key to bring up the guild panel, which shows you the current online and representing status for every member in the guild. Today, when you hit 'G', the server has to parse the list of all 499 guild members (minus you) to check that status and send it to you. 499 record lookups is nothing for modern hardware, but what happens at scale? Let's say there's a huge event going on, and everyone in the guild is online. Someone says in guild chat "lol Fog rolled a thief", and 499 people (minus Fog, who knows darn well that he rolled a Thief) hit 'G' to check it out. The server now has to do 499 record lookups 499 times - that's 249,001 lookups, just shy of a quarter million, and send out 499 client updates. My computer takes 1.07 seconds just to read 250,000 bytes from a file, without actually looking anything up or doing anything with that data. Now imagine that Anet increased the size of a guild to 2000 members, enough to house all current GW2 Gaiscioch, with room for reasonable growth. If Fog then rolls an Engineer, the server has to do 1999 lookups 1999 times - just short of 4 million lookups. My computer takes 7.51 seconds to read that many bytes, and do nothing with them. So, by increasing the guild size by 4 times, they've decreased the performance of one player service by over 7 times. The numbers only get worse the more players you add - it's over 3 minutes with 10,000 members, hooray for exponential growth! That's one guild locking up one player service for several seconds. Compound this over all the other guild-related player services for all the other guilds on the server, and the game could become unplayable. Obviously, this is cocktail napkin engineering, but the principle is sound, and hopefully it sheds some light on the performance aspect of the guild limits.

We brought it back up to saighdear about a month ago. All 3 guilds are nearing full so we had to slow the anu room. If we didn't that room would be max capacity atm.

no, you stay where you are. Lorgair's will become Saighdears in time. We're doing our best to load balance the guilds. If you get an insite mail asking you to join a guild then you join it. Easy as that. No message = No Change.

There is no way for us to tell when you accepted the invite. Once arenanet gives us a bridge (API) this message will disappear when you've accepted. For now it will remain. You will get a gaiscioch mail when its time to change guilds.

keeping this thread fresh

Being fresh and sticky are not really mutually exclusive. ;0

Depends on the context Bentmer... I know you and your thinking so I guess... no they may not be mutually exclusive. :P To continue... Rift seemed to manage it just fine after some work... I remember when opening the guild panel roster would crash my system completely but after the fix it's been fine. My biggest gripe about this is just... I don't feel the community like I did in Rift... I miss that. There really isn't near as much banter in guild chat and I may have friend in the other guilds and not even realize they are in the game at all.

As of 11/25 you should have a home Gaiscioch room, the ability to join Anu and the ability to join Rall. You should be in a max of 3 Gaiscioch Rooms at this point.