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[Informational] Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn - Excalibur

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Posted On: 02/24/2013 at 01:48 AM
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Well it looks like they are finally getting into the Beta stage again... and surprisingly it looks really good. I used to play in the original Beta and then for a while after release. I'm sure many have either heard the original FFXIV was bad and for those that played it, realized it was even worse than bad ;P

 

As they shut down the server in preperation for the new re-release here is the video they played in game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h542YbZuwkQ

 

If nothing else, it is an epic cutscene to the end of the 1st era of FFXIV.

 

Now... the future is here and I'll post a few links of some new stuff :D

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW6fL5X1fM4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J7kO8BTZDU

 

They looked to have fixed may of the issues and complaints and I'm actually getting interested in it once more.

 

Is anyone else intersted in playing along side after release?

 

 



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Replied On: 02/24/2013 at 04:07 AM PST

The game is being totally revamped. New engine, quest system similar to other popular mmo's, instanced dungeons and raid zones. They revamped the outdoor fate encounters which is basically outdoor raid mobs. They revamped the classes and jobs. BTW jobs are basically multiclassing. The game lets you be any class you want by switching weapons but if you obtain certain ranks in certain classes you can go train a job. Examples of a job are Bard and Druid. They are finally opening the game up for the console players likew orginally intended. The PS3 customers and PC customers will be on the same server. Its why they revamped the gaming engine. I had bought a collectors edition when the game first came out. I am a die hard Final Fantasy fan and I played FFXI for quite awhile so I had high hopes for the FFXIV. But with all the bugs at release I never put much effort into the game. Now however I am seriously looking forward to investring some time in this game. Unlike the first launch this version HAS A ENDGAME WOOOOT! Considering anyone who bought the original game is just going to have to patch the remake and can start playing at release I hope alot of people give it a try again. I will be trying it for sure. The main reason I left the original was because of lack of content. The new changes with dungeons raids and the new quest system is everything I was looking for .

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Replied On: 02/24/2013 at 04:44 AM PST
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I hope so as well, another interesting thing is Yoshi-P said he is going to be including PvP as well after level 30. I'm more than curious about that part heheh His inspiration on redoing the game were WoW, Warhammer, Guild Wars 2 (there was a 4th one I can't remember as well heheh

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I Beta tested the original FF XIV. Its one of the few (if the only) games that I have ever recommended that my friends NOT buy and play. We'd told SE that it wasn't ready, which, ok, is something that Beta testers like to say a lot, but it really was. not. ready.. And I am very liberal and forgiving when it comes to my release state analysis...

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Replied On: 02/24/2013 at 02:52 PM PST
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Fortunately the guy that ran the the 1st Beta has nothing to do with the new one :D Even the current producer has said that whatever he does it couldn't be worse that the original lol and that's saying something. I tried to be forgiving at the original Beta as well. I believed that what they had really was just a fraction of the game... at least until release when we all realized that really was the entire game rofl. I was more than shocked that they would really put out such an unfinished game as a final product. I also recommended to everyone I could *not* to buy it. Pretty graphics does not a game make. Especially when there is really no story. I have alot higher hoped for Pt. 2 hehehe

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quote: Even the current producer has said that whatever he does it couldn't be worse that the original lol and that's saying something. LOL wow, now that's just ROFL. I'm actually looking forward to seeing the redux. I know my best friend is just scratching at the door to get in, he was burned by the first one, even though I told him NOT to buy it... he did, regretted it and now really wants to see v.2.

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I bought it because I was a final fantasy fan and had played every one and didn't want to miss one. This really hurt their reputation and I am glad they are redoing everything. Things look a bit more promising in the future for their company, and I wish them well. That being said I will watch closely before I invest anymore time in the games, I felt sorely disappointed and it will take a lot more than promises and flashy screenshots to get me invested again. Not trying to be so negative, and I usually stay positive about thing but I grew up on final fantasy. I really hope they can pull things out well.

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Replied On: 02/24/2013 at 09:23 PM PST

It is hard to talk about anything when an NDA is involved (please be mindful of this in the thread!). This game has a lot of potential, and I sincerely hope they get it right this time!!!

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I didn't see anything in the NDA about not bashing on the original. ;) It sucked and I think its really cool of them to say, "hey, the original game was so bad, that we're axing it and doing it right, this time." I haven't seen this redux version yet, so can't comment about it, even if I wanted to. That said, folks with access might want to check the schedule post on their forums... as in immediately upon reading this.

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Replied On: 02/25/2013 at 05:21 AM PST

The NDA is alittle bit less severe as it was the first round they know they need some good press for this remake to be sucessful. Heck they even joked about people saying they were in beta as a means for people to know that beta had started. This game is probably going to be one of my ones I play at release. I stopped playing it mainly because of the lack of content. Now that it will have everything the first one is missing Ill for sure be playing it,. I am a die hard FF fan and have the collectors edition for it also. So if its half as good as they are saying Ill be playing it for sure.

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I am planning to get it as soon as it is re-released, I wanted to buy it the first time but I was told that it wasn't worth it.

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I have always been a fan of the Final Fantasy franchise. FFVII will always be one of my most memorable titles. Dabbled in XIV until the servers went down but never got into it. I'm hoping Reborn brings the game back to life for those dedicated to FF MMOs. I'll stick with ROMs of the classics on my Android devices. They were a pleasure on subway rides when I lived in Philly.

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Replied On: 02/25/2013 at 05:25 PM PST

@ Sekkerhund: I guess I was referring to the "Im testing and have it installed" comment when referring to the NDA!!!! Is that not breaking it? Hypothetically, of course :P

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Hm, actually, Hex is hypothetically correct. I guess I need to hypothetically l2read more carefully. I'm not sure why developers are squelching their testers from saying they're... well, a tester, especially since the developers advertise the dickens out of the fact that they're in Beta testing phase, its all over Facebook, Twitter, emails, and gaming websites. I guess its so they can have 100% control of their marketing, no idea. edit: Quick comment: I've been Beta testing MMOs since 1997 and I have never run into a problem of saying I was a Beta tester for Soandso's game. Recently though, in past few years, it seems to almost be a generic entry that some developers just copy/paste into their NDAs. That said, its gotten so bad in recent years, that last summer, I was lightly "threatened" by Piranha Games via Twitter, because they thought I'd tweeted that I was in their Beta. I wasn't, they'd misread my tweet and I politely crawled all over them for threatening me. They sheepishly apologized for their mistake, and a couple of days later, I was given a Beta invite. LOL But yea, that's the only time I've been yelled at for saying I was in a Beta... that I wasn't actually in. o.O

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Replied On: 02/26/2013 at 12:35 AM PST

We just have a really simple policy - if you're in anything other than an open beta, don't post about it. This protects our relationships with developers past, present and future. It is super tempting, because we all have opinions and exciting things to say, but where NDAs are concerned we ask that the Fight Club rule apply, without exception. Have fun in your non-NDA regulated games!

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Understood. This "Fight Club rule" (funny, that's what I call it, too) that developers are starting to universally adopt will make a good subject for an article for my website. I'll have to remember it, once I get it fully online.

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Replied On: 02/27/2013 at 06:57 AM PST

I played XI for about 5 years and was super excited for XIV when it launched and even stuck around for 4 months or so after launch. I'm chomping at the bit to see how the revamp has gone. They have added tons of quests, and something they are calling FATEs which are basically dynamic events. If they can get the controls and input lag that was in the original release taken care of I'll be happily running around Eorzea for quite a while.

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I'm looking very forward to this game as I've been keeping tabs on it for a long time since its remake. I will possibly be dropping GW2 completely for this game.

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This is one of the MMORPGs I've been waiting for. I can't wait for it to be released. :3

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Replied On: 03/05/2013 at 05:01 AM PST
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hex, being as I'm not a current tester, though I really really want to be I have no quallms about talking about the beta :-) at least until I get into the beta lol

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Replied On: 03/06/2013 at 09:56 AM PST

Wow did not know there was this much interest in the remake of FFXIV. Depending on what beta looks like I was wondering if any of you guys would be interested in forming a small guild. I was in the original so with the transfers depending on the situation maybe we could get something going. Once we see what the reborn offers and we get a better idea of who is interested and it gets closer to release I will post a guild formation thread. If we have enough we can start a guild the day of launch.

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Replied On: 03/06/2013 at 05:48 PM PST

I played for about 2 months when FFXIV first came out. I really wanted it to work. I'll be watching closely.

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Replied On: 03/06/2013 at 06:00 PM PST

@Saren my comment was not aimed at you :) As an Eldership group we are trying to dissuade people from saying "I am in a Beta" and potentially breaking NDAs. My comments were relevant to the replies as discussed above. We have spent much time building relationships with the devs working on various titles, and as elders we fiercely protect that reputation. The best way to do that is to dissuade any statements alluding to participation in NDA governed Betas. That way we get to participate in them in future as a guild. Because of the huge importance we place on beta confidentiality, we kinda have a zero tolerance approach to forum discussion. Statements like "I wish I was in beta" are fine, statements like "I got in Beta and have the client dowloaded" are not. Hopefully everyone gets the distinction! On a non-beta note, I will be playing FFXIV ARR come release day. I think it will be an awesome game!

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Are we still going on about this?

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Replied On: 03/07/2013 at 02:21 PM PST
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I guess we are? :)

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Hex was making example of my previous post, for which I already apologized and removed. Its embarrassing, because I misread their NDA, which proves that even someone like myself, with almost 20 years of testing online games, among other things, can still make the occasional NDA goof. It would be nice to just put it behind me. That said... Since the Eldership wants to prove to potential developer partners, that Gaiscioch is serious and dedicated to strictly conforming to any and all confidentiality requirements, my suggestion is to make a NDA Conformance Declaration post/article, make it very visible, that declares that the Gaiscioch website is under strict "Fight Club" guidelines, with respect to any and all Beta information, other than Open Betas and Public Weekends and that any postings found to violate the rule, will be removed ASAP. In other words, absolutely no posts about any games that are in Beta, unless they are in Open Beta or about a Public Weekend Beta, in which case, members are encouraged to discuss and share their opinions and experiences to help promote the game.

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Replied On: 03/08/2013 at 10:58 AM PST
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ahh I think I missed that post. I been sick since Sunday mostly in bed and only checking the forums irregularly. That being said, I kinda agree about NDA having been in many games requiring it. But, I also don't see a problem with discussing what the developers have released to the public since that would then not break NDA.

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Replied On: 03/08/2013 at 11:19 PM PST

No worries Sekkerhund, I only mentioned it cos Saren piped up. I am not the game police, just trying to maintain our rep. For me, not breaking NDAs is a given, so I will comment on it if I see it, otherwise I encourage any form of communication/dialogue/info sharing between guildies as a really good thing.

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Replied On: 03/10/2013 at 09:36 PM PDT
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So, Hex, what race and job are you interested in playing on re-release? Same question to anyone else that cares to answer as well heheh

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Replied On: 03/11/2013 at 02:54 AM PDT

Well I do have a char from the beginning I dont know if it will carry over yet. It was elezen I think been awhile since played. They did say they would try to carry over chars but who knows if that has changed. I do know however I am going to change my focus. In the first one I went wizard dps. This time I am going to focus on healing. I am most likely going to remake my char even if they carry over and just use my carry over to fund my new char. I am leaning towards Miqo'te and white mage this time.

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Replied On: 03/11/2013 at 01:42 PM PDT

I've been playing the Realm Reborn beta and I must say, it is twice the game it used to be. It still has that Final Fantasy feel to it and the combat is a lot smoother but to me could still be faster. All around a great game. If I can do some streaming of the game without breaking any rules I'll gladly do so :)

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I would not recommend messing around with the NDA for Realm Reborn. They are very hardcore about banning accounts, throwing warnings all over. Apparently, people have been streaming, posting screenshots, writing posts about their experiences, etc. and they're cracking down hard. See, THAT part of the NDA I hold inviolate. But saying you're in the Beta, or that there is a Beta, is pffft, ESPECIALLY if the developer is tweeting about it several times a day and retweeting links for Twitch streams. (FFXIV has not been allowing streams, to my knowledge, btw, but another game does and has been throwing the retweets left and right.) Mostly, that clause is just copy/paste from NDAs that other games have used (I have an old NDA copied to my HDD and its funny how they all have almost the exact same wording...), with no purpose and actually got started with Dark and Light, which was a game run by some "shady guys" who had stolen a graphics engine and were trying to keep it hidden, while they developed a demonstration game around it and ripped off a few million $ from unsuspecting players. Dark and Light was by far the strangest Closed Beta I'd ever been in, I was in it from very early on (aka Alpha now), but something always felt funny and finding out the story later was very o.O not to mention I almost got ripped off, but managed to get my money back from Click and Buy, who was not shady and lost a lot of money in refunds due to the scam. Anyway, that's where the "Fight Club" clause first came to light, a few games adopted it, afterwards, mostly due to copy/paste of DnL's NDA, which was considered to be the most comprehensively restrictive NDA for Beta testing and ... here we are today, with that clause in almost every NDA you see.

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Sarek, please remember that you are not supposed to say you are even in beta *cough cough* (anything discussed in this thread needs to be public information released, speculated or theory crafting, not any juicy facts from the Beta, sadly. Please don't break any NDA in this conversation.) Back to the question at hand, I was thinking of doing a male miquote myself since I played a female one from the Beta through 1.0. Did a lot of gathering the 1st time but not sure if I want to continue after 2.0. I did also have fun playing the magic classes as well. We shall see how it turns out after the re-release (or NDA is removed) whichever comes first :)

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Replied On: 03/11/2013 at 05:21 PM PDT

In answer to your question Saren, I will be continuing with my female miqo'te conjurer/whitemage from XIV upon release. It depends whther they decide to carry over toons from the first game...I may just reroll.

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Guys & Gals, Do be careful. Please do not discuss this beta or any beta for that fact on these forums. I do not want to make my life harder by getting slapped with NDA breach accusations. I've had the unfortunate experience of being reprimanded because of this before do to members and do not wish to re-experience it. It is very damaging to our reputation. When the game goes live you can speak all about it. But while it's in beta keep it to the beta forums.

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Replied On: 03/16/2013 at 01:57 AM PDT
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Might I ask, then, why are there forums for Defiance, ESO and Archeage when they are currently in Beta's?

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To discuss what is public knowledge. As in found in media articles. What I am saying is not to discuss testing experiences on our forums. Trust me I dont like being approached by game companies because they found something on our forums that is nda material. Discuss what is public not what is being tested.

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In other words, folks can discuss what they read on MMORPG.com, but not what they experienced in the Beta, first hand, or discuss topics found on a game's Beta forums. In all cases, NDA confidentiality covers not disclosing any game-play experiences, opinions and details about the game, while it is in development. Those are universally regarded as confidentially inviolate and its very possible that Fog could be sued for not monitoring and removing that type of information, even if he is not part of the Beta, himself. Plus, it gives Gaiscioch, and him, a bad reputation with developers. Now, simply saying that you're in the Beta, really depends on each individual developer, a case by case basis. Some developers strictly enforce it, some don't. However, its better safe than sorry and to have ZERO discussion of Beta and your participation in it, outside of what you read in officially sanctioned articles posted on gaming fan-sites, or by the developers themselves on their public website.

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So, Fog, are you interested at all in personally checking out this re-release (not necessarily for the guild or anything or maybe not even as a Saighdear Game) It may well prove to be an interesting game with a combination of PvE and PvP and it seems as if there is at least a little interest in it heheh

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Saren I don't know how many have decided yet if they are going to play it but I have pretty much decided I will be. I used to run a SWTOR guild for people in the family and I have converted that website for a FFXIV guild site. If we get enough people we could ask to be a Saighdear game but I was holding out on saying anything about the site until the open beta when we can see just how much real interest there was. I don't want to get peoples hopes up if we cannot get a solid group of people together for a guild. If your interested though your more then welcome to go to the site and register. It still has a few things to iron out on the site but I was leaving that closer to release to get peoples input who will be playing and joining from the guild. here is the website http://draigheanshochai.guildlaunch.com/index.php?gid=237529

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I am interested in taking a look at this game, to many fond memories of FF I - III. However, like I did with the original release, I doubt that I will play the first month as I have decided to avoid the release month for all games. If someone should advocate this (or any other) game here on the forums for the month AFTER release, I might believe that it is playable and worth the money, I will most likely take a look.

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Snazz, if you played the original 1.0 then fortunately it would just be the monthly charge and not having to buy the game again. I'm hoping that the re-release will outperform the original system as I really do love the FF series and really want it to work. I remember playing FF when it was released way back on nintendo as well hehehe. FFXIV really was such a shocking disappointment for me on original release that I've almost been hesitant to give it a try again, but, that being said I will definitely play it for at least a month for ARR. FF is one of the few series I've stuck with from the start (Wizardry series and Elder Scrolls as well) and really hope to continue playing

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Yes anyone who had activated there account during the horrid start will have auto into the ARR. They even stated that those with prior accounts will get the free 30 days like did at launch and 60 days for the CE like did at launch along with the bonus items like the onion hat and azure sleeves. But they did state they would try to allow the chars to transfer over. I hope they do. They also stated currency would transfer but be reduced since all quests and item costs were dropping. I do not know the ratio but they stated some prices like items that costs 1400 gil would be 140 gil so I think if you had 100k gil in bank then u would start with 10k gil . We shall see.

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According to public posts from Yoshi (and other sources), Beta 1 is over and they were starting Beta 2. Looks like things are progressing along. Can't wait to actually try it again heheh http://www.news10.net/news/article/239629/99/Final-Fantasy-XIV-A-Realm-Reborn-enters-phase-2-of-beta-test

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Something new I saw on the Official FFXIV blog today. http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/blog/post/285

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There are just too many games available and coming up that I probably spend more time sitting staring at my desktop trying to decide what to play than I do actually playing.. lol. And of course now there are so many good games that are either F2P or B2P or a combination of those that I have been finding it harder and harder to justify paying a subscription. It's a weird psychological thing. My brain recognizes that I could potentially spend more money playing a F2P-ish game than a subscription game, but the idea that I'm forced to pay a subscription to play makes my brain associate it with bills, or chains and manacles or something. Anyhow.. the first incarnation of this game disappointed me so much, probably because I was so excited for it. I'm glad they're remaking it and from what I've seen I'll be keeping my eye on this. It has a lot of competition though for my money.

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Today was a good day for new FFXIV news. Select sites were allowed to review Beta Phases 1 & 2. So without further pause, here they are ;) BTW, none of these break NDA so enjoy! http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/04/24/preview-final-fantasy-xiv-a-realm-reborn-early-beta-a-seedling-of-rebirth/ http://gamerescape.com/2013/04/24/final-fantasy-xiv-a-realm-reborn-beta-impressions/ http://ffxiv.zam.com/story.html?story=32262 http://www.gamebreaker.tv/mmorpg/ffxiv-closed-beta-details-revealed/ http://www.pcgamesn.com/finalfantasy/final-fantasy-xiv-realm-reborn-impressions-stirring-turn-around

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Here is some more (possibly) new information in regards to FFXIV http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/04/27/final-fantasy-xiv-a-realm-reborn-release-window-confirmed-for-the-summer-ps4-version-hinted-new-major-npc-revealed/

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Beta 3 should be starting in the next couple of weeks according to the news reports on the net and they just had a few articles that said it will for sure be a summer launch so I am getting more excited hehe.

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What I read somewhere is right now SE is just waiting on Sony's approval so it can be downloaded on the PS3 so they can time both PS3 and PC Beta at the same time. Which really excites me. I'm hoping Beta 3 will start in the next 1-2 weeks :D EDIT: Yoshi-P stated today and Nico Nico Chokaigi 2 that Beta 3 would be in June... Ahh well... more waiting :(

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Couple pieces of new info Beta 3 is supposed to start June 14, free for all previous 1.0 owners and the PS3 Beta also scheduled to start. August 27, Final fantasy releases and opens its doors once more.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=q2RghB8r4tA new video of some of the jobs too <3 I love that the pace of combat seems faster. Monk looks like fun!

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Big Twitter Q&A today, too. I haven't had a chance to collate all the data yet, but there were some interesting tidbits thrown out. I have to commend the FFXIV team, they are really throwing themselves behind this game with all the passion they can possibly muster. Out of all of the games released/ing this year, this is the one that is catching my eye, because of that. I honestly trust that they are going to release a fantastic product, because they have a second chance to prove themselves, and everything to lose as a result of failure to deliver.

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Yeah, Izzy I watched that as well it it looks great :D

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Missed that video link for some reason. I like the Bard the best. I'm not sure about the Mages, will have to get hands on before i can decide. The melee seemed meh, but it might have just been the static target they were using. Combat seems more engaging and enjoyable. I'm very much liking the direction of the development, I have a warm fuzzy about this one.

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Just another tidbit for everyone that had owned the 1.0 CE copy they will be getting the 2.0 CE digital items at release. The only thing they will not be getting that anyone who orders the new CE is the head start and the physical items like the soundtrack and that. They are only giving the head start I guess to those with legacy status and those who order the new CE. Not really a big deal since those from 1.0 will have there chars transfer over if they choose a legacy server. There will also be fresh start servers for those that want to start completely over those servers you cannot bring in legacy chars to.

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Fresh start servers, interesting. I don't believe I have legacy, I don't think I bought the game. I beta tested 1.0, but think I ran from the purchase as fast as I could. Fresh start might be a nice option, not sure how many others will want to take advantage of their legacy characters. Depending how the next couple of months go, this might be the next game I purchase.

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Yeah I know I don't have legacy status, though I do have 1.0 characters. I plan on starting fresh anyways. Don't want to deal with a preestablished economy

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I can't decide whether to go legacy or start fresh. It would be nice to have a white mage already levelled, but on the other hand, the content has all changed. But then I have a bank full of mats so I guess it will depend on what friends are doing. I might end up starting fresh on a legacy server but then have my legacy toon there for all its money and crafting mats.

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I'm definately rolling legacy server, just not sure which one yet.

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I've been patiently waiting for the re-release. I played in the original beta and played for quite awhile after. I also played FFXI for over 5 yrs. From what I've seen it looks awesome and I'm waiting to get back to my female miqo'te PUG/MNK. <3 the power that class has. (Unless they've really nerfed it) However I may change my mind. I'm not a mage person, only in GW2 which is odd for me. So far they don't have any pet classes and that disappoints me. I was a dragoon in FFII and really loved that class. Also a summoner. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. LOL Going to have to wait and see what happens though. Also much depends on how I feel. I've been feeling very bad lately and my play time is so very limited. I will be playing though. Kittara

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Arcanist is a pet class, though it won't be playable for beta 3. There will also be a summoner from what I've read as well :)

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Chris and I have toons on different servers, so we will have to figure out how/if transfers work so we can be on a legacy server together. I cannot wait for this game, it looks great.

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How can you tell if you have Legacy status? Is it marked on your SE account somewhere?

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It is on mine, I bought the CE initially. I was also involved in "other things" which may have given me that status, but am unsure as to how exactly I got it. I was also allowed to submit my toon's name for inclusion in the final game credits due to legacy status.

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To get legacy status you had to pay for monthly at least 3 months prior to 1.0 closing down the first time. It also gets marked on your account.

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I can't talk about what may or may not have arrived in my inbox today regarding something that may or may not pertain to this. Happy E3!

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I may be adding this to my list of games to play cant say why but thinking saving up for a years worth of play before I get into it. Atleast I know if I dont have cash on me for a while i can play the live version for a while so roughly about 30 for Digital game copy then 12.99 x 12 is what im looking at so i can hang with other FF but thats a far shot if i can even get it saved up but for seen anyone know if we talking about what server we would do meaning think they are doing like they did XI with EU/NA players together and ASIA on there own server.?

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I got the CE when it first came out and played it despite the flaws, even though it was less than I'd hoped for. The new FFXIV:ARR beta is, simply: amazing. The graphics are off the charts, the game has been moved to a new graphics engine and it really shows. Gone is the awkward UI of the release version, the new UI is all at once familiar, easy to navigate, and user-configurable. I hope to see as many of you as possible in-game either in beta or when it goes live!

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I will also be checking this game out. I really liked the art style and story lines of previous FF titles and look forward to exploring what this game has to offer.

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Bete 3 first weekend is now over. NDA is lifted (with exception of Video/audio) and we are now freely able to talk about the game. I played on both PC and PS3... and it was... amazing. Everything I wanted to see from the game happened and then some. This truly is a FF title worth playing if you like the FF series. Great graphics (PC) Good graphics (PS3). A true FF world with iconic FF monsters. Questing... sidequesting... and omg awsome cutscenes ;) and it actually has a story now! (well one that kept me interested :D ) Mouse/keyboard were great... but the PS3 controller was absolutely amazing. Every are from 1.0 has been re-imagined and done well. Well.. goodbye life, this is the game I wanted 1.0 to be ;)

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@BalorGorgon, There are going to be servers in Japan, Europe and in NA to help prevent latency unlike 1.0 and XI where all the servers were located in Japan. Both me and Kittara created characters on the NA based server Behemoth

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Just wanted to let people know a few things that have changed since beta 3 has started. its now OK to say your in beta if you are. I have been in it awhile. As of June 14th the NDA has been partially changed. Here is what I mean by that. Beginning June 14th Partial NDA lift. What you CAN post after 6/14/13: * Written information about FFXIV Beta phase III on through to launch * Phase III screenshots / images * Beta selection status, Servers being played on. What you CANNOT Post even after 6/14/13: * Audio or Video files from any testing phase so far. * Any written information regarding Alpha / Beta Phase I or Beta Phase II * Any screenshots or images of Alpha / Beta Phase I or Beta Phase II I had originally intended to set up a guild in FFXIV ARR but after thinking hard I felt it would be better to sit back and enjoy every aspect of the game this time around so I decided not to do it. I did however find a really nice friendly goal oriented FC that will have many FFXIV 1.0 vets like me in it. They are rolling on a new server though so starting fresh. If anyone is interested in screenshots to be posted from beta 3 let me know. Also if you are intending to play the game in release and no one takes on starting a guild FC here feel free to pm me about joining the FC I will send you the info and put in a good word for you. I am on the Ultros server and my name is Talos Darkbane if you are playing and want to look me up also.

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Yeah. It has been great so far. Just a few bugs I've found. Only thing I'm a little sad on is the ability to solo about everything. There's no "we must team up to survive!" aspect as there was in FFXI. I miss that. There's no huddling for survival. That was fun! lol BTW, I'm on Odin (my fav Esper).

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Team up to survive is FATE's ;) Dungeons and some other content. If you start attacking 3-4 things at once you still have the possibility of dying. There are still required group party in behests and some levequests can be difficult to solo. The game does not revolve around group content like XI did but really... you want to sit and fight 1 monster for 5-10 minutes that's not even a boss? I don't miss looking for groups for hours just to find one and it breaks up in 5 minutes and have to look again for hours.

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NDA is active currently, but its super open, you can currently post screenshots, as long as it does not involve the initial cutscenes and opening scenes of the videos played at the beginning. Additionally information can be shown and discussed as long as video is not displayed with specific tutorial like explanation of in-game systems or gameplay (currently). In that! We can openly discuss the beta from phase 4 and going forward! I present some of my beta shots!: My Final Fantasy Trip Additionally: 1. I will be playing this game *early access included 2. Looking for members to begin "Saighdear" Program 3. Will be working with members here to start a linkshell and maintain it 4. Super excited about playing! If you are interested in pitching in for a Saighdear please reply and Leave **** Interested In Sai **** somewhere in your post so I can find those interested so we can begin plans to coordinate

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I am interested in playing this title, already bought the collectors edition for it. I am also interested in forming a Saighdear.

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I'm potentially interested in joining depending on where the Saighdear server is located. Not interested on playing on gilgamesh since honestly I've always severely disliked gilgamesh

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@Connor- Love the screenshots by the way. I have always been a fan of this art style. I have also loved the story lines in the Final Fantasy series. They always seemed to capture my imagination and pull me into that world. As a result, I would end up playing the game into the wee hours of the morning just to see what would happen next. What do you guys think about the story behind the game?

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Thanks Rusted!! And I love the story! its a big part of why I enjoy it so much Additionally, Saren - We would decide as a group where we would be going.

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Like the screens also. Yeah the beta NDA is somewhat open you can discuss anything from Phase 3 forward but nothing from previous beta 1 or 2 and no videos or audio from the entire beta. What I posted above is exactly from the NDA update clarification on beta forums that was updated by the Devs. So if you do have anything from phase 1 or 2 be careful not to make a mistake and post it. I accidently almost did in another forum doh :)

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Diablos Server Linkshell Name is Emerald Tears, plus Balor Gorgon is my Main other then talk to you all later.

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They handed me a beta key this weekend, so I figured "why not?" I'd left the game for dead in dec of 2010. So very disappointed... With ARR, well I feel renewed!! THIS is the final fantasy mmo I dreamed of 3 years ago! I'm so happy right now, I can't even describe it! I will be waiting to decide which server to play, till I know where ya'll are at. :)

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I'm on Malboros. Think the name is Kocco Boskot, she's a kitty Pugilist, was waiting for that to open this Beta phase. I also plan to try out Thaumaturge and maybe Marauder or Gladiator, those are new for phase 3 as well. I verified that I do not have Legacy or 1.0 status, so atm, I am undecided whether I will want to play on a fresh server, or if I'll be willing to play on a Legacy server. Also, it seems like I recall Izzy saying something earlier about a Saig in FFXIV:ARR, I could be wrong though, but might want to touch base with her.

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Could those of you that like it explain what is attractive to you? I monkeyed around with it for about 6 hours and didn't see anything that really excited me. I feel like I must be missing something from all of your reactions.

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SilasGray, I can tell you for me being a old school fan of FF series its about the people who play it as well as the story,graphic and fast actions, crafting is different then most other games in its own way. Beyond that think I have to say the community and love of the game is what it is about. There are young people playing but I would have to say bet would bet 10 to 1 that a good chunk of players are for sure of the age 25+ - 50 ( may even older ). Beyond that I cant answer for the other members of the family but I know way I feel ^_^.

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I fall in that 25-50+ demographic, 44 to be more precise. Although I can't speak for the current title. I can say what I liked about previous titles was the story. That along with the graphics has made me a fan of the FF series. The FF games that I played were all single player so the game mechanics was quite different. I would like to hear what some of you thought about this games mechanics versus some of the other mmo's that you have played.

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I am 46 and a long time MMO player but wasn't really into the FF series so maybe that's the missing link. Thanks for the reply.

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i am on malboros as well. i played my thauma up to level 11 (which i love that thaumas are more like a proper black mage now), since thauma was my main at release. but then i realized that conj becomes a white mage, and i was all over that. will most definitely be playing a WTM at release now! as for the reactions, my observation is that most of the fondness comes from nostalgia. many fans grew up with at least 1 or 2 FF titles in their library and they love the universes and character building. i was completely heartbroken with the v1.0 release and i really wasnt willing to give the game a second shot. i have been 110% blown away with the revision and new engine. is it the best new mmo out there? no. the game play i find a little "plain", especially now that i am used to the dynamic combat of GW2. but i will play it anyway, because i do like the crafting concept (was my favorite part before) and i love the fact that it FEELS like final fantasy now. =)

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I was never a FF fan, in fact I have never played a FF game. App'd for the beta out of curiosity mainly. In less than 1 hour I was hooked. I love to rp and be immersed in the story and the world around me. I HAD to know what happened. So it was the depth of the world and the story that hooked me.

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I found this video blog by Chris Smullen to contain quite a bit of information that I found interesting. Sorry, if this is old news to some of you. There are also other Vlogs that he has done that I found very informative

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At work currently, when I arrive home I will be trying to establish more of a structure behind the game and where we could likely go as a group, I will be forming\applying to have an official saighdear opened for this game soon. Will be making an informational thread(s) tonight as well to bring people up to speed as to what it is, and what its coming from! Thanks and stay tuned!

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Hmm maybe Ill make a char on malboros and hook up with you guys when they announce the next round of testing I assume it will be this coming weekend. I got my Cnj on Ultros up to lvl 19 before they shut down the beta so I might be able to catch up to you guys. The big problem I am having is that darn new video of scholar job . I was all prepaired to be white mage down to having my plan of attack for phase 4 and for early start all laid out. Then I saw the scholar video and it blew my plans out of the water. Mainly because scholar has the same look and feel of the fury class in eq2. I played a fury in eq2 for 2 years and completely fell in love with it. The furies in eq2 could be really good healers or really good dps depending on the fight. I used to show up 3rd on raid healing charts and third on dps charts for certain bosses I had a blast. Scholars are going to be masters of heal over times and they will also have some decent dps cababilties. That combo makes them fit into the same role a fury had in eq2. They were in charge of keeping the other squishies alive and also adding some dps when needed. I am soo torn now and unfortunately that class job combo will not be available ot test until phase 4 hehe.

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Yay I can finally talk about this! *************************************Interested in Sai(possibly!)**************************************************** Gibsauce (Chris), Samion, Elth and I have been playing on Diabolos. I have tested the whole way through (originally on Tiamat) and am loving the game. Toon names are: Hex Estrella Rawr Thing Samion Tears (I forgot Elth's name...it starts with Elth though!) For release, I will play a white mage, Chris will play a paladin tank...many hours of instance funs incoming! I co-led a guild of die hard fans for 1.0 release but we gave up after 4 months...we gave the game a good try but it was too grindy and there was not much in it. Upon returning I was pleasantly suprised, and love the following: The lighting and animations are fantastic The instanced PVE is awesome and fun Mi'qote males are sexy in all their emo hotness! (Personal Hex observation) The FATES (similar to PQs in WAR) are quick and make it easy to gain xp The fact of not having to loot anything makes gameplay seamless and faster between quests Trinity trinity trinity, how I fkn love you!!!!!!! In the dungeons, the challenge is actually there. You do not simply steamroll through it. You have to think about cc, aggro and tactics. Like a proper MMO! The hunting log is lots of OCD fun You can buy companion pets relatively cheaply (2500 gil for the bomb, automoton and baby chocobo thing) The dye system makes accessorising easy! You level all your jobs (classes) on the one toon, so you do not have to make alts. If you are making a dungeon group and you have say two healers, you can switch to your dps or tank or whatever else you levelled. This makes group composition a lot easier once you have been playing a while. Legacy players (those who subbed in 1.0) get one free server transfer, rename and remodel. The PVE is truly gorgeous. Group size is 2-24, and the limit break system is fun. You can use limit breaks from 4 player groups and up. Your group increases the limit break bar as you play and when it is full, one of you may unleash a skill of pure awesome. The animations are fantastic. Great story, I am actually interested in the lore rather than skipping through it. The scholar and summoner jobs look appealing. There are many jobs available to level to end game. Crafting looks way less complex. As a fan of pve, I don't get much time to craft, and I love that it has been made slightly easier. The combat and UI feels way less clunky. I am impressed that they managed to do that bearing in mind the PS3 feel to it. As a legacy player I get to keep my Goobbue mount, plus they added a yawn animation to it when it is idle...looks cool In summary, if you love pve and dungeons, pretty graphics, fabulous lighting effects, a good story, and trinity old skool combat, you may like this game! Servers We have legacy toons so of course will be playing on a legacy server. The servers are divided into NA, EU and JP. There are 4 NA legacy servers I have seen so far. Here is my logic, for what it is worth: the server you are automatically drawn to is Excalibur. While I would love to roll on it for the name, so will everyone else so I was going to avoid that one, because I think it will be the most populated and have longer queues. I figured NA would be good for grouping with people as I am not on during primetime EU or JP times. The ping is not much different between them, it is more language and play times that attract me to that timezone. Two have lame names imo...Sargatanas and Balmung (I mean, really?) so I thought they were dumb. (Welcome to the Hex logic of server chosing!) That leaves Hyperion. In Greek mythology, Hyperion was the lord of light or sun god, which appeals to me. So yeah, we had already decided to roll there thinking that it would not be a Gaiscioch Saigdhear. While Hyperion is my first choice, I am happy to change that, however I do wish to play on a legacy server as I have many crafting mats and gil on my conjurer, and she is just about to do the white mage quest. I also think things will be cheaper on legacy servers (that is only my economy prediction, not fact!). So yeah, there is a strong possibility I would join a Saigdhear, dependent on it being on a legacy server.

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Can non-legacy players roll a character on Legacy server? Can Legacy characters transfer servers and still maintain a Legacy status? I am thinking no on this one, or else why have a Legacy server. I could be wrong though.

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Non-legacy players can roll on legacy servers. Legacy players wanting to use their already levelled toons cannot roll on non legacy. Legacy players may transfer ONCE for free, and also rename and remake their toon in character creation ONCE. For that reason, publicizing a server choice before headstart is very important, as you only get one shot at the transfer at this stage. Legacy = access for everyone! The reason you cannot take your old toons to "new" servers is due SE wanting to preserve the economy on those servers.

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Very cool. Then I think we should roll on a legacy server. How do you think the economy would be on Legacy servers?

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I am not very good at the economy side of MMOs, so I do not know whether new toons rolling on a legacy server would be at an advantage or disadvantage. My initial thoughts are (and please correct me as hate math) that the legacy servers will have cheaper low level crafting mats for sale from the higher toons. There will also be more gear available to buy as there will be higher level crafters already there. The downside might be that you are less geared for progression, but that might only matter if you were rolling without a linkshell and were trying to pug stuff? Just my thoughts, they were confirmed in RC by Fog, see what other people think :)

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Hexx, be on RC soon (next few hours) we need to talk.

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I've been beta-testing on Leviathan and have been having a blast. As everyone above has said, this is what I wanted 14 to be from the start, and I spent the whole weekend having a serious nostalgia trip from my time on FFXI. Now I'm suffering through beta withdrawal and just hoping that the next beta starts up this weekend too (though really? 2AM starting? Ugh!) Personally, I didn't play 1.0 so I don't have any initial desire to play on a Legacy server myself, since that will skew the economy to generating too much money at the top (and I would just rather pretend 1.0 didn't happen), but I'll wait and see what the guild is up to before then. Supposedly, the next test is about importing Legacy characters, so we'll see how that test goes, but the core mechanics of the game are there to be a lot of fun.

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Are you breaking up with me Connor? "We need to talk" sounds ominous!!! I will be on RC on and off, but am going for lunch at 5 pst, not sure whether I will be on after that. Reply to my email with a time would be easier :)

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I've been trying to push ARR for Saighdear for a while now heheh (the reason I started this thread in the first place ;P) I'm really not that interested in playing on a legacy server myself as I prefer to start on a server with a fresh economy. Since there is no planned character wipe between Phase 3 and Phase 4, Phase 4 should be planned as the start of the game. What servers are you currently looking at to play on? Currently we have members playing on Behemoth, Odin, Ultros, Diablos, Malboros and Leviathan

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A few other things if you had the 1.0 CE copy your getting basically the digital 2.0 CE items also along with your old CE items. !.0 CE are getting the cat mount also. Legacy members get automatic head start while others have to preorder a new copy for the chance to get early access. The last thing is maybe a slight misconception by legacy players regarding the free one time server transfer they get because they are legacy. That transfer is only going to be allowed between legacy servers only. You cannot basically pop your 1.0 char on a legacy server on day one then request a transfer to a non legacy server. It will not work. Yeah it sounds like common sense but there were people trying to do that to skate the fact that legacy char are not allowed on fresh start servers. I do have a 1.0 char in the mid 20's adventure class and a bunch of level 10 trade classes. I have basically decided I will be going on a new server this game is almost 100% different from the original I wanted to start fresh so I didn't miss anything of the new storylines and quest objectives.

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I also have a 1.0 char lvl 20+ on Hyperion, however so much has changed in the game since I played. Quit before they added the whm and other jobs to try and salvage the game. I want to be with the guild as I don't pug and I <3 Gaiscioch. I do have many questions, but I'm going to wait and see what Connor comes up with before I ask them as you may have answered them. My main concern though is including non-legacy characters with legacy characters. I am willing to start over but I know there are people that aren't going to want to. My retainer is sitting there with a ton of stuff on her! LOL What draws me to FFIV is attention to detail, the story, inovative endgame. In FFII Limbus, Dynamisis, Sea, Fighting the Gods, Kirin, and everything else that came after shows me that once you hit cap that there is something to do and FFIV, hopefully won't be any different. GW2 there is no end-game and Rift there are dungeons and a few rare monsters. I'm hoping FFIV will provide for more. My first MMO was FFXI and I played it for over 5 years on Midgard server, then they tossed me to Ragnarok. Trying to cover the two or more topics in this lengthy thread. ;) BTW Connor the crab in one of your screenshots reminded me of the same crab in FFII final weapon skill challange (Ninja). LOL Also your beta toon is exactly the same model and job I made. Kittara (also Kittara in FFIV)

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I just ran into this game again over the past few days and I've got to say it looks really great. FFXI was my second mmo and the first one I actually knew how to play well (I was just power leveled in EQ by a friend, had no idea how that game worked lol) and something I always remember about it was how it all felt like one big cohesive world with lots of interesting places to explore and hunt big nasty monsters in and not just quest hubs strung together. So I guess my main question about the game is does it still kind of retain that feel? I'm not sure if discussing this would violate the NDA or not but my understanding of it is that it's been relaxed significantly.

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Server choice is always made by the person running the guild. That way there are no arguments. I am not leading this one, so I will not be deciding. Connor is going to make a post soon :)

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Thank you for the udate Hexx. I look forward to Connor's post. It's all going to be new to me, so I will go where the family goes.

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It is such a difficult choice, because you cannot please everyone. I do not envy it! Obviously people will go where they will by personal choice, or where their friends are. But at least we will have somewhere for people to choose if they want to play with a few people they already know from this guild. So who is excited about next weekend's test? Anyone levelled a cool job they wanna discuss?

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Family, After a lot of research and mental debating, I've personally come to a decision on where I specifically am going. Due to some circumstances I will not be officially applying for a Saighdear for this game. If you are of rank and interested, please! go for it! That being said, I am still willing to bring people along with me in a completely non-official capacity. Here's the facts: Going to Server: Excalibur The Server Type: Legacy As a side note, this server is a Legacy Server, We have people with Legacy characters that want to come along, and I don't want them to be left out. Moving to a server where they are forbidden to go, leaves out potential members for recruitment. Mind you, I do not personally have a Legacy character and will be starting fresh! I will be starting a Linkshell there and anyone is welcome to come along - If you are interested, please let me know and we can coordinate as soon as possible for continued fun in phase 3 beta (If applicable) and get together for Phase 4 (Release Prep) and get thing's planned out for release.

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I'll be right there with ya Connor. :D

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Yay, I am happy to switch to Excalibur, I will definitely be there from headstart. It does not really matter whether it is a Saigdhear or not, the main thing is people have a choice and can take it or leave it of their own free will. I would hate people to feel "obligated". We will have fun whether we have 10 people or 100, I am sure! Thanks for the work you put into that decision :)

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Assuming we're keeping our characters from the previous test, I think I'll be working on exploring. I'd love to map out more of the world and see how you get between the three major cities. I'd also love to spend some time as CNJ/WHM and see what the dungeons have to offer. Archanist (whatever the 3 letter abbrev is)/SMN would also be fun whenever that gets added too. There's just a lot that I'll be looking forward to. (Connor's screenshot gallery totally makes me want to make one for the upcoming weekend.) As far as server choices, I'm biased that I would like a new server (shameless plug: the folks I played with on Leviathan were really friendly and playful and the company was great), but then again, I know how hard it would be for folks who spent lots of time in 1.0 to abandon those characters. Sadly, all the information I've seen on physical server location has been hearsay (nothing specific from SE), so that doesn't help as much. I'm just hopeful that as many of my friends, both in-guild and new from testing, can all be in the same spot. (EDIT: I take too long to post. Excalibur sounds like a fun name for a server, so I'll definitely have to check things out there and see how things go. If nothing else, we'll all have a place to gather and go Gaiscioch crazy during the beta. ;) )

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Replied On: 06/17/2013 at 09:55 PM PDT

Yay Kitasha that is my proposed main job, WHM. I am also interested in Scholar, Arcanist and Summoner, but my first love is heals. I do not know too much about the newly announced jobs, but it will be fun trying them out. I think I am gonna put my legacy toon onto Excalibur for the mats etc, but level a new toon from scratch and just have the old toon for a mule. That way I can help people out with crafting mats and make any weaving gear people want, but also enjoy the new storyline, jobs and awesome quests. @ Saren: I totally agree with you that Phase 4 is effectively release for a lot of folks, so we will definitely get stuff set up for then.

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I am not in beta, but will see everyone on Excalibur at launch. Happy gaming

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i see so many white mages! i think this is the first time i've been in a "guild" dominated by healers. naturally, this thread do not account for everyone who is in the family and planning to play FFXIV, but i just thought it was an amusing observation =) i will be a white mage as well, tho i plan to make a summoner eventually because, well, everyone wants to be a summoner! edit: to english better

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Yeah, WHM is easy path to dungeons. ;) For the first weekend, I actually played through ARC mostly, but if we're grouping up for this, then I'll be working on whatever the group needs (since I've love playing everything so far and testing is testing). hehehe maybe we can all take on the first dungeon as a full party of CNJ. ;)

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Family, If possible, I would like to gather a head count of everyone who plans to continue into Excalibur with me and the others so I know who to account for. Want to begin fleshing out some details about the involvement and how the structure will work. PM me on the forums with the below info or copy and paste this into a forum reply -=-=-=-=--=- Server: Excalibur Estimate Character Name: Play Time Hours: Estimated Class: -=-=-=-=-=-

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-=-=-=-=--=- Server: Excalibur Estimate Character Name: Monis Play Time Hours: afternoon/evening CST Estimated Class: Marauder/Warrior -=-=-=-=-=-

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-=-=-=-=--=- Server: Excalibur Estimate Character Name: Hex Estrella Play Time Hours: Evenings & late night PST Estimated Class: White Mage -=-=-=-=-=-

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Klystora and I will be present in FF14! Bivrip-- server: excalibur Character Name: Bivripple Minimoo Play Time Hours: Varies (baby due 9/16) Estimated Class: Black Mage, possibly dragoon. We shall see. Klystora-- server: excalibur Character name: Klystora Play Time Hours: Varies (baby due 9/16) Estimated Class: Unknown

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-=-=-=-=--=- Server: Excalibur Estimate Character Name: Zero SevenSix Play Time Hours: All the hours, ever (Evenings & late night PST mostly)! Estimated Class: Paladin for guild events (every job otherwise/WTB Beastmaster!). -=-=-=-=-=-

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Play Time Hours: Evenings & late night PST mostly!

Estimated Class: Black Mage, Bard or Summonor to start

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Server:  Excalibur

Player Name: Caledfwlch (or varaition of)

Playtime Hours: will vary, but mostly evenings EST

Estimated Class: need to try out some of the classes. 

 

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Check your Gaiscioch mail Rusted!

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Thanks for the Mog Vlog links RustedCrown. Nice compilation of info to watch while waiting to play the game! ^_^



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@Hexx- Thank you.

@Gibsauce- Your welcome, those vlogs definitely make me want to play the game.

Nice sigs by the way. Love them!



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Still undecided on where I will play at. Though I wouldn't necessarily be happy, if Kittara chooses to play on excaliber I may follow. Gotta follow my wife heheh

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@RustedCrown: Thanks! They're very much a WIP, but I'm liking how they turned out. Props to Hex for helping me design them!

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So this whole time I have been thinking Kittarra, Kitasha and Ktzala were the same person!!!! Doh!!!!!!

Wherever you three "K" people end up I wish you well! Here's hoping to see you on Excalibur though so we can get some pve events together, go kill Ifrit, and beyond......

.....better the devil you know, right :P

@Saren: Thanks for starting this crazy thread. Really hope you can see us in game...we will make the best of things and have fun regardless of server!



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-=-=-=-=--=- Server: Excalibur Estimate Character Name: Larela Lightsong Play Time Hours: evening-late PST Estimated Class: CNJ/WTM -=-=-=-=-=- My hubby will also probably be playing too. he tends to follow me. not sure if he will be too shy to join the guild. again!

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After looking at all the information out there and listening to the excitement in everyone's comments, I plan to try it out as well.  Since I have never played FF and do not have any characters yet I do not know who I will be!  Probably have Rina in it somewhere.  :)

 

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Did we decide on a server for start, or have they not announced server names and Legacy vs non-Legacy?

 

I won't be playing on a Legacy server, I prefer a fresh and clean server to start out on. 

 

 

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Yeah.  Server is Excalibur, which is legacy.  This makes it inclusive for all, rather than excluding our legacy players :)

 

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Ahh no worries then.  I'll just have to find some friends to play with on another server.  Thanks!

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I'm not opposed to rolling on a Legacy server, but I have to admit that I am a wee tich nervous as to what the economy might be like.  Mostly about skewed inflationary values.  I suppose it has its pros and cons, and its a horse that can be beaten to death and beyond, so I suppose I'll just have to give it a go and roll with whatever results.

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Sekkerhund,

Besides the fact were doing it for our legecy players, there were a few other points I took into consideration such as:

1. Older Economies can be benefitial, well established, and high item availability

2. Established crafterbase, more items available for purchase due to the skill level of older players, additionally inguild players who can craft nice items for the team

3. Trolls, Most legacy servers are fairly calm and civil, most players in this game know being a prick wont get you far, the newer servers will be mostly where the "ohh new shiny game!!" trolls will be landing as it will be where the majority of new players land.

I expect an influx of players to excalibur as well, but i could easily estimate 45+ % will be returning players or friends of returning players, along side the remaining % being the already established player base.

Additionally, It also provides alot more raid ready players on the server for those of us who advance quickly, this will allow our casuals to play unpressured to level as the one's who are rushing as a way of playstyle to get to end game, can enjoy partying with people outside the guild to network and establish a knowledge of the fights to assist in training the players who come into the end-game in their own time :)

Glad to see your giving it a GO with us!

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So anyone can roll on a legacy server, even completely new players yes?

ETA: nvm, found the answer.

I think I agree with Connor about the crafterbase and older economies, so if I do get this game I will join you on Excalibur, plus the name rocks so.... 



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Play Time Hours: 9pm-12am PST (most nights I will be available after events in GW2)
Estimated Class: Scholar

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So Excablibur coming on live for this Beta Test weekend? And Where can I find it.?

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My issue with a pre-built economy is that it favors the legacy player and not the new comer.  I enjoy working the Auction houses and getting into crafting, which will be already in place with inflated costs and prices, where the legacy players will have the money to make those purchases and craft those items but the new players will not....not to mention those legacy players will be miles ahead in crafting and anyone else trying to break into those markets will be so far behind and will little to no money to invest to catch up.

So it appears to be great for legacy players but new comers will spend most of their time playing catch up.  So the rest of the guild is doing raids, crafting the great gear, doing endgame and by the time the new players get there it's old news.  As previously said, Raid ready is great for the legacy...not so much for the new guy.

As far as trolls?  hehe don't kid yourselves, they are everywhere and always in great density in MMO's.  :)

I get choosing a server for everyone but in this kind of case it just doesn't favor newcomers.

 

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I agree Abusabus,

 

Ultimately, there are pro's and con's to both sides. But givin that more people than not want to join with me and the others rolling there, I made the decision to not exclude our legacy brothers and sisters. And having heard from some of our legacy players that they will be assisting in outfitting and funding endeavours for us in the re-release, I felt like it would assist in getting other people geared and ready to go a lot quicker than starting from scratch.

I completely get your point, HATE for you not to be with us, but understand none-the-less. If you change your mind, you will know where to find us!

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Hiya guys I fully respect  your decision to go legacy server. it was hard for me to decide to give up my 1.0 char that was over lvl 20 and also had all the crafting classes 10+. But I did alittle research before I decided and quite a few legacy guilds are making plans to try and monopolize the auction house on there respective  servers to try  and generate enough money fast to obtain there FC mansion and buffs quicker. There is nothing wrong with that but I know that its going to but a severe strain on anyone starting fresh on a legacy.

 

Because I have a few family members  who are new to game playing I decided to go with a new fresh server like they wanted too. I found a very nice friendly FC that  basically reminds me of  our  family here is almost every way. If there are any of you guys who are not interested in playing on a legacy server and want to  join a good guild on a  fresh start server just PM me and Ill send you the info along with put in a good  word for you. The guild I am is doing quite well we  already have a FC formed and running in the phase 3 beta and have 60+ members in it already. Take care all and  have fun.

 

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the monopoly thing is disconcerting. it sucks that people have to do this and cant just enjoy the game. my hubby wants to play with his friends, who are also on another server, so i am currently debating my choice in excalibur. hopefully things will settle in the coming months and a decision may be easier.

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Ultimately the markets and everything else, including some of the reasons i decided and posted on previously to go to legacy, are really moot.

 

The same can be said about the point toros brought up about legacy server guilds monopolizing markets, ive heard of legacy guilds all moving to new servers to do the same, they have the advantage of experience and knowing fights, will be rerolling on new servers and attempting to do the same their.

In the end, its about the ability of the people you play with, even if the market is terrible, you can still manage quiet easily, and having some of those incredibly weathly legacy players in our group is going to be a value add as most of them who are joining are rerolling with us from the beginning.

Hate to see Toros and company go, but to each their own, its always been about enjoying the experience, and if thats not with the group im leading, so be it, I wish any who arent coming with to ensure your making your decision on fun factor, not legacy vs non legacy regardless of the assumed pro's and con's...I want to make sure you all are having fun, thats all I care about, and my train of thought was the more of us together, the higher the chance of enjoying one anothers company. But as this is non-official or required by any means, you are free to do as you please! If that means the only people I got on excalibur with me is myself and my brother, than so be it! As long as everyone is enjoying themselves, I dont care.

I simply dont want people to feel they need to debate in favor of one server type over another - its always about making a decision your comfortable with! The people who decide to roll with us on excalibur will be just fine, just again, please dont feel obligated or guilt ridden if you decide otherwise.

Love my family no matter where they decide to go :)

 

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Debate is almost always a good thing when it's civil (and the family has always been good about that, even under heated situations).

I think my main concern with being on a Legacy server is that it starts out by dividing the group into two: those with high levels and those without. For me a lot of the fun of playing MMOs is being able to play with friends and experience the content together. While I believe the game does support level sync (if I read that correctly in other articles), most times people who are at high level want to continue with high level content, which leaves one group of players working on high level content and the second group playing catch up. While I know the family is better than most about this disparity, it does always happen to some degree. Also, while I agree that having fully leveled crafting characters around makes it easier to get things made and have those things available, that still provides a tangible benefit to those that came before.

Like Connor, I'm a big fan of inclusion and making sure the majority of people have the opportunity to play together, and I understand that, if I had played 1.0 and had a high level character, it would be very hard to ask me to start over from the beginning (although at the rate I delete high level GW2 characters because I don't like their race, maybe not LOL). I just fear that things will end up being split between those two groups and leading to a different type of exclusion. I hope that it doesn't come to pass, but I do want to put that out there anyway as food for thought.

One other thing to consider, depending how folks are going, is that I've seen that cross-server dungeon groups are a part of FFXIV, so even for those that choose to play on a different server, we should still be able to gather for groups and help each other out. (Again, not sure how that works or how well that would go, but other ideas to throw out there to keep involved.)

For me personally, I don't know if I will be calling Excalibur my home or not for both the reasons I've listed above as well as meeting some new friends during this beta that I would like to continue playing with, so it will be something to discuss this weekend. I do know I will definitely make a toon on Excalibur, regardless if I choose to play there full-time or not. Since this beta is testing out the first time for 1.0 characters and importing, I would be very interested in the views that those folks testing importing characters on Excalibur experience this weekend. It may help to both give folks and idea of what to expect (since it's all just conjecture now). We may all want to try a beta weekend there during Phase 3, so we can experience it that was as well.

In either case, for those not testing importing characters, I'm really looking forward to tomorrow and I hope to see some of you on Leviathan this weekend and chatting in RaidCall about what an awesome game we're getting to test.



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Legacy or non legacy could be debated forever and forever stay at an impasse.

I wrote out a list the other day and the pros and cons were equal, which led me to believe that you will never please everyone as it was so evenly balanced for and against.

The point of this forum space is for us all to have a space to communicate about FFXIV whichever server we find ourselves on. A decision has been made, so I am looking forward and focusing on what I can do to make Excalibur a fun place for those who roll there. A debate over it seems pointless.  I would rather discuss how we can make our guild awesome, game mechanics,  jobs etc.

I have a legacy toon. It has 20,000 gil on it I think. The game reduces that by 90% for FFXIV ARR. So I will have 2,000 gil for release! (In my first day rerolling on diabolos I think I made 5,000 gil.)I will have it in the background for low level crafting mats and so my weaver can make stuff for lowbie casters should they need it. I will be levelling my jobs from scratch on abrand new toon, so as to enjoy the game with everyone else.

I go to law school 40 hours a week and have a job for 20.  EVERYONE will be ahead of me in the game after the first 2 weeks after my vacation ends!!!!  You cannot worry about who will be ahead and blah blah blah, that will happen in any game as it is lifestyle dependent. Those who have a lot of time to play will always be ahead. Even starting fresh.

I wish those who play on other servers well and encourage you to meet up on the same server, or not. I am excited for those who will be rolling with us in an unofficial capacity.

The decision on Excalibur won't change, it is what it is. I apologise to those who feel it is not for them, but we are focusing on a choice that includes rather than excludes. 

It is far more positive to focus on what you 'can' do than what you 'cannot' do. Discuss whatever you like, but please bear in mind that we have always had a policy of leader chooses server to prevent arguments and dissension. For that reason, although I could post a really great argument 'for' a legacy server, I feel that would be pointless, as we are flogging a dead horse here.

Play where you want, with people you have fun with. We will be doing the same on Excalibur. 

I hope everyone has a blast in this weekend's beta!!!!!!!!

Edit: please read Foghladha's sticky post, it is very important. We are very grateful to even have forum space, so let's use it wisely!

Edit 2: clarifying gil amount I expect to have!



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my issue is always that the places i want to go are not the places my husband's friends go lol. seriously, it's every game.
wow? i was horde. friends? alliance. rift? i wanted to be defiant, they were all guardian. i'm just a rebel like that, i guess ;)

i was SO stoked for GW2, because that just COULDNT happen! they all quit and went to LoL...now he hardly plays gw2 lol. ultimately, market issues aside, i will probably still follow the family wherever the majority of them be (at release anyway).

shane is currently trying to get his friends to move to excalibur, so we'll see how that goes, i guess lol.

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Hope you sort something out you both are happy with Larela :) Hopefully it is true that you can cross server group, which would be pretty cool. That way wherever you end up you can still group with your gaiscioch friends.



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I've definitely been through that before Larela...many times, and in many games!

Though in Rift, it worked out for the better (for once). I gave Guardian a try (was initially Defiant for 20-30 levels), and that was how I met a Gaiscioch member, whom later invited me into the family. That's also how I was introduced to my lovely partner Hex, who was organizing Rift events at the time, and decided to take a chance inviting a silly, dwarf nublet to her dungeon runs. :D

Ultimately, the focus for all of us should be having fun, and playing where it suits our individual needs best. And I sincerely hope that anyone who is considering giving FFXIV:ARR a try, will enjoy it as much as I have/am, regardless of where we all end up! Besides, Ben has kindly allowed us to have some forum space, as well as an RC channel(s). So for those who won't be joining us at Excalibur, there's nothing stopping us from still having a chat about recent game events/patch notes, sharing dungeon strats, theorycrafting, etc. ^_^



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^_^ oh i plan on having fun! i just thought it was funny. as i was saying before, i will probably side with "the family", because shane's friends have a bad habit of just dropping a game like a rock. then i am left in an empty guild all to my lonesome *sigh*. and you guys are awesome. i love you *wipes a tear*

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Funny enough, I found out that a whole bunch of my friends from back in the day when I played FFXI during the JPN-only days are also gathering on Excalibur, so it looks like the stars are aligning that way regardless. 

Now just have to see if my beta friends will come along for the ride too...

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"JP-Only."

Ha, that brings back memories! We joke about that a lot on vent/RC. Nice to hear about your old friends joining you. A few of my old CoP+ friends are doing the same, having decided on Excalibur (which was an awesome surprise). I've unfortunately long since lost contact with my Rise of the Zilart buds & mixed, EU/JP/NA static, but I'm looking forward to making new friends in XIV. As long as Yoshi-P & team continue on the track they're on now, I can easily see myself spending another 9 years+ engrossed in XIV, as I was with XI.



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Well, I decided to re-roll on Excalibur, anyone else there? Feel free to add me to your friends list! Bivripple Minimoo is my character name. Still undecided on if I will be going Black Mage or Summoner as my first job in phase 4 / release....

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Aalwein Corpsechaser is in the beta now. Going Archer, of course.

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Aalwein,

The majority are currently on Leviathan for the beta, if you'd like to join us, feel free to roll and pop in raidcall and join the fun :)

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Excalibur or Leviathan? I am confused!

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I am the king of confusion! I have a toon on leviathan as well, decided to reroll on excalibur on the extremely thin chance that SE lets us keep our phase 3 toons into phase 4 and launch. I know this chance is tiny due to the level-boosting NPC, but hey, stranger things have happened in the MMO world!

 

Good news, I was able to get a beta key for the wife, so we both will be around in phase 3, and for sure phase 4 onward (we both preordered)

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Connor started a linkshell on Leviathan for the beta, because back then, Excalibur was not up. 

So,,,Leviathan (or wherever you like) for Beta 3.  Excalibur from Phase 4 onwards :)

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Hey all,

I have preordered CE and plan to play the early start.  I will be rolling mages/casters for sure, maybe an archer as well.  Not sure ;)  So many choices *sigh*  Ummm, I am on Leviathan atm for beta 3 but will roll up on excalibur for beta 4.  I thought Excalibur was legacy only, am I wrong?  I almost picked up the 1.0 of this game but then read how bad it was and decided against it.  So, starting fresh with 2.0 (so no legacy for me :/ )  Is it still fine to roll up on Excalibur? 

 

Looking forward to this game :)   All toons will be *rexae as they are now (except for my usual Reecez toon...carry over from eq2). 

 

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Hey Cyrezae, If you scroll up a bit they explain that Legacy servers are open for new players as well as Legacy players. A Legacy server was chosen so that noone will be left out! I will also be starting fresh as will a few others on Excaliber. 

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Cyrexae,

 

You dont have to roll several toons to play different roles, you just collect some gear and you can change class by changing your weapon! Of course each class starts at level 1, but you can at least acquire gear ahead of time! 

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Thanks Foxy :) 

 

So Sandolphan are you saying one toon can play all classes/jobs?  I am not sure I understand the whole class/job thing anyway.  I get that classes is more basic than the Jobs (jobs being more specialized).  After that I kinda don't get it.  I do understand what weapon you have equipped determines what "role" you are playing. I have watched the 101 videos and a couple others.  If you go the route of job say white mage, are you then locked into it or can you still go monk if you wanted to?  If so, I think this is hands down the best game ever.  Up on eq2 I have 11 slots for all my toons and it is annoying as all get out that you can only be 1 of 2 classes (if you are a druid, you can only be a warden or a fury).  I like choice, I like changing things up.  Otherwise I get bored.  One of the things I loved about Rift was being able to have that versatility to change things up. 

 

 

 

 

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Replied On: 07/08/2013 at 03:59 PM PDT

Fortunately, the answers to all your questions are explained in our forums :)

Yes, you can swap to any job out of combat, provided you have levelled them. You do a "soul quest" at level 30 to obtain access to a job.

I will use white mage as an example. I level my CNJ to 30.  I level GLD to 15.  I pick up the WHM soul quest and complete it.  From then on, I can acess WHM and any other class or job I care to level.  The only difference is that as aa WHM I am more specialised and will not have the flexibility to slot as many cross class skills like I could on my CNJ. 

I will be limited to my WHM skills plus a few selected skills from GLD and PUG only.  So, for example, as a CNJ at level 24 I can use up to 4 selected abilitied from all the other classes.  But when I go full WHM I  am more limited in what I can select to slot, choosing only from PUG and GLD in addition to the spells available to me as a WHM.

This thread is a good starting point. The handy table explains it all, and shows which jobs have access to which classes.

http://www.gaiscioch.com/tavern/ffxiv_discussion/post_60598.html





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Cyrexae,

That is exactly what I am saying. You roll one toon and after your initial class choice reaches 10 and your at a very early point in an ongoing quest, you are given permission to change classes freely merely by changing the weapon you are holding. You can use some of the abilities of the other classes you have leveled as well.

The same toon can be a white mage on moment and then literally 2 seconds later turn into a warrior or paladin or bard. You just have to have the time invested to have all the other classes leveled to the point that the jobs become available and have the appropriate quests completed.

You can roll alts if you like, but I would rather accumulate everything on one toon as long as I get all of that flexibility in playstyle.

Also since this is a premium game and not a free to play game, you don't get nickel & dimed on storage or bags for your gear. Storage is plentiful i have found. Especially after you gain access to a retainer (think of a bank that will also sell stuff on the auction house for you) I am not sure I can play another F2P game after Neverwinter...

 EDIT: Each class also has its own customizable gear set and hotbars. You press the button to change class, it puts on your appropriate gear set and changes your hotbars to the way they were the last time you played that class. It is remarkably streamlined.



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You can do both!

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It would be cool if we could keep this thread for those making it known they are rolling on Excalibur, and discussions like jobs etc in the other relevant threads.  It just helps us see easier who is playing and newly in the company. Thanks :)

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Estimate Character Name: Soren Shepard

Play Time Hours: Depends... weekdays: 10pm-1am CST weekends: 10pm-12am CST, sometimes during the afternoons

Class: Lancer (will snag arcanist as soon as I can after getting Dragoon)

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Hey everyone! Thanks to Connor I was able to get into last weekend's beta and had a lot of fun. I even managed (about 4 hours before the end of the beta) to hook up with Hex and Gibsauce for a little chatting and killing of stuff.

I'm pretty torn on what toon to level as my primary class. Yeah, I know you can switch to anything but I expect I'll end up with one class leading the way, especially as I get closer to 50. I also realize people say "play what you want" but I'm leery about rolling yet another DPS who waits for 3 hours to run a dungeon (on the other hand, it seems like everyone here is rolling healers so maybe that's a *good* strategy!).

 

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Obviously I'm still wrestling with my class choice.

 

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Hi all!  I know this is a little late in the posting, and wasn't sure where to put this, but wanted you to know that I'd like to join you in FFXIV: ARR.  I'm fairly new to Gaiscioch, but have been a long time MMO player, and also a fan of Final Fantasy.  I was fortunate to get into the beta a couple weeks ago and am very impressed with the game.  I can't wait till Phase 4, and game launch!  I've pre-ordered, so will will have early access. 

I plan on making my toons on Excalibur.

Character Names:  Sunnaia (still working on a surname); and Dinarra or D'Narra (not sure on surname yet either)Play Times:  (PST) evenings and weekends 
Class:  Pugilist/Monk;  not sure what my 2nd toon will be

Looking forward to seeing you all in Eorzea!

 

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Great to have you along.  I look forward to meeting you both.

I am going to repeat myself (again) here BUT the most important thing will be to roll on Excalibur as soon as possible, so as not to be prevented from doing this later if the server fills up.

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Estimate Character Name: Morigana <last name tbd> 

Play Time Hours: All  hours except between 3 a.m. and 11:00 a.m. PST - I do have to sleep  (I'm retired but will be playing 3 different games so hours will vary)

Estimated Class: Arcanist Summoner - maybe/probably or Dark Mage

 

Honestly this is all tentative - I haven't been in Beta so I have no real clue about the game or if it will hold my attention.  But I will order it and be in the game for awhile.  Yes, I have too much free time :)



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I thought I replied already, but I don't see my post.  Thus, pardon me if this is a repeat.

 

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Also, one of my friends has requested to move his toon to Excalibur also

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Well i'm  not sure if I put this here but i'm going to anyway.

 

Server - Excalibur

Name - C'Valt Tia

Race - Miqo-te (Seeker of the Sun)

Gender - Male

Class - Arcanist (starting)

Guild - Echoes (like there would be any other choice ^^)

Estimated play time (late afternoons Sun-Thurs, Anytime Fri - Sat)

 



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I just preordered a copy

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Welcome to those who recently signed up. Great to have you all in Echoes :)

@ Nightfall : of course you are accepted!!!! We are working on the premise that everyone is accepted. I would rather assume the best in people from the start - if they then choose by their own deliberate actions to make themselves "un-accepted", then that is their call.... We don't want to make anyone feel like they are going to a job interview to get in the guild! Likewise, family and friends are welcome, as long as they read and accept the "Laws to Live By" sticky post.



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Great Thx!

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Well, I haven't actually listed my info here yet, but pretty much going with what I tried and really liked in Beta 3.

Character Name:  Briseadh Crionna

Class: Archer/Conjurer - heading to Bard.  (other classes to be added later)

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Now to go get myself updated on what info has come out since last Friday or so.  =)

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Heyas everyone! I purchased the CE digital edition after participating in Beta 3. I am completely brand new to the Final Fantasy world and will be reading the thread stickys on the background of the story.

 

Hope to see you on Excalibur !

Character Name: Hinkydinks Tildiwink

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Many thanks, Hex !

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-=-=-=-=--=-
Server: Excalibur
Estimate Character Name: Some derivative of Aetrus/Aetra
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Estimated Class: Possibly Archer->Bard or Conjurer-> WHM... not sure yet!
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