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2-Handed Sorceror "Thane" DPS Build

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Orsan
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Posted On: 03/27/2014 at 08:04 AM

This is one of my favorites builds that I played during the beta. It is based on the Thane from DAoC. It combines sorcerer storm calling with heavy armor and a very large hammer. :)

This is mainly an RP build, but can be successful in PVE or AVA in the right hands.

I hope that these builds I’ve been posting give people some ideas to work with. They are just my little contribution to the family. Your feedback is appreciated. Enjoy!

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Race: Nord - There are probably better races stat-wise for this type of build, but Thanes were from Midgard, a region populated by Vikings. Nord fits best.

Class: Sorceror - the only class that has lightning spells, so this is a must.

Weapons: 2H Hammer – The Thane always uses a hammer.

Weapon Enchants: Shock damage – More lightning is always a good thing, right?

Armor: 7 Heavy, or 5 Heavy/2 Medium – this build will not use a shield, so extra defense is needed. Use some medium pieces if you need extra weapon crit and stamina regen. This will require extra skill points.

Attributes: 29 Health, 10 Magicka, 10 Stamina

The Thane will use both stamina and magicka for skills. The 10 points into each will be taken in early levels to help with longevity. After that, all points go into health.

Mundus Stone: The Thief

Almost any stone would work for this build. The Thief increases critical chance, which this build sorely lacks due to heavy armor use.

Build ESOHead Link

 

Bar 1 – 2H Skills

Slot 1-1: Wrecking BlowKnocks the target back, deals heavy damage and buffs the power of the next attack. Has a 1 second cast time, which can be interrupted, so use with care.

Slot 1-2: Critical RushCharge the target and deal critical damage. With the passive ability Forceful, this ability will critically hit 3 targets, gaining extra healing from the Critical Surge ability.

Slot 1-3: ExecutionerDeals bonus damage if the target is low health. Passively buffs damage to low health targets from all abilities.

Slot 1-4: Forward MomentumRaises weapon damage and breaks snares

Slot 1-5: Critical Surge Storm calling skill, raises weapon damage. Critical hits heal the caster while this buff is active

Slot 1-U: Summon Charged Atronach your big lightning-slinging friend. He will stun and damage targets and take some hits for you.

 

Bar 2 – Lightning Skills

Slot 2-1: CarveWeapon skill, hits all targets in front of you and generates extra Ultimate for each target hit.

Slot 2-2: Mage’s WrathDeals shock damage, explodes if the target’s health drops below 20% and does AOE damage.

Slot 2-3: Lightning Flooddoes shock damage over time to an area. Allies can activate synergy to deal high shock damage instantly to enemies in the area.

Slot 2-4: Thundering Presencebuffs armor and spell resistance and deals shock damage to surrounding enemies. Generates Ultimate for each enemy hit.

Slot 2-5: Ball of Lightning teleport forward and disorient enemies in the path. Absorb projectiles for 5 seconds.

Slot 2-U: Energy OverloadChanges your light and heavy attacks to deal shock damage, drain ultimate and generate magicka

 

Passive Skills:

Heavy Armor - All Passives

Two-Handed Weapons - All Passives

Storm CallingAll Passives

Daedric Summoning – Power Stone only

Dark Magic – Unholy Knowledge only

Racial (Nord) - All Passives

 

Total skill points: 66

 

Leveling -Leveling will look quite a bit different, as you will want to level both heavy and medium armor, and all 3 spell lines. I recommend having at least one spell from each spell line (Storm Calling, Daedric Summoning and Dark Magic) on your bar at all times, and wear a mix of medium and heavy armor.

Last Edited on: 04/08/2014 at 09:21 AM
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Ban Muintir de na Capall
Ysolde
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Replied On: 03/27/2014 at 08:46 AM PDT

I was thinking bout doing this as well but going 2hand sword. She was going to be my She-Ra Princess of Power rp character :)

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Saighdiuir de na Faolchu
Orsan
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Replied On: 03/27/2014 at 09:05 AM PDT

Nice ;)

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Ban Muintir de na Capall
Ysolde
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Replied On: 03/27/2014 at 09:50 AM PDT

This is mine its just a rough draft but its kind of what I would like to go.

Test Build 1

Not 100% sure on the Race yet, but I like the charge, knock down, buff up and then practically two executes.

So I have no idea how I put that picture in lol 

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Caomhnoir de na Fhiaigh
Hygeliac
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Replied On: 03/27/2014 at 09:54 AM PDT
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I was also thinking of something like this.  Even if you can't have the hammers of wakening.

 

Not sure i would go exactly this build, may want a couple of heals.

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Tirean
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Replied On: 03/27/2014 at 09:58 AM PDT

This is the build i will be leveling http://tinyurl.com/oumov9g


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Saighdiuir de na Faolchu
Orsan
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Replied On: 03/27/2014 at 09:59 AM PDT

I'm sure this build will adapt if I actually decide to play this after release. I might swap in 1h and shield on my second bar instead.

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Kennethan
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Replied On: 03/27/2014 at 10:15 AM PDT
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In the beta I got rid of the staff and went board and sword with my sorcerer.  Love it.

I like the 2H idea as I have always had 2H weapons on my tanks.

Thanks for the post and ideas!

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Saighdiuir de na Faolchu
Orsan
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Replied On: 03/27/2014 at 11:09 AM PDT

You're welcome! 

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Kalizaar
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Replied On: 03/27/2014 at 11:26 AM PDT

I love love love the idea of magicy type characters that swing a big weapon around and are heavily protected (whether by magic or metal both are cool to me). One of my alts will definitely go along that route. I also love the idea of magicy type healers (instead of divine) so I might just have to do both with the same Sorcerer instead of the time to raise two characters!

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Charlatan
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Replied On: 03/28/2014 at 06:41 PM PDT

The builds mentioned here seem very similar to the Shaman build I posted a couple of days ago. The only difference is you got people to actually respond to yours. :(

 

I'm torn between a sort of lightning/2H build and maybe a pyromancer DK build. I'm sure I'll try both but I'd really like this type of build to work.

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Saighdiuir de na Faolchu
Orsan
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Replied On: 03/28/2014 at 06:45 PM PDT

I post these builds mainly for fun. They represent crazy ideas that I come up with while I'm at work. :)

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Dirkdaring
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Replied On: 03/29/2014 at 08:07 AM PDT

i was running the same since i played a thane and skald, cave shammy in DAOC as mid . i was using chest, legs, shoulders heavy and  4 light for magik regen  and using a shield and Hammer for the ac with  Sorc , was still switching between shield hammer and 2H hammer .,  shield 1h hammer  worked great just like the old caster thanes in DAOC 

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Orsan
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Replied On: 04/08/2014 at 09:27 AM PDT

Update!

Currently level 18 with this character, and I absolutely love it.

I am wearing 5 medium and 2 heavy armor at the moment, and using Mage's Fury, Velocious Curse, Crystal Shards, Executioner, Lightning Form and Storm Atronach on my bar.

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Saighdiuir de na Faolchu
Orsan
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Replied On: 04/08/2014 at 02:12 PM PDT

I'm mulling over what I should do with my second weapon bar. I would like to stay with the "hammer" theme, so using either another 2-hander or a sword&shield would work for a more tanky approach, but for the purposes of ranged damage going with a lightning destruction staff would also fit the overall character.

The third option would be to use a bow, which doesn't fit the character at all.

Thoughts?

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Kalizaar
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Replied On: 04/10/2014 at 09:53 AM PDT

I've been fiddling with this concept now and then on an alt. I find it much more challenging than my Nightblade Resto Staff character. He's still sub 15 though, so maybe at that point I'll think about throwing a Resto Staff on my second bar to help keep him alive.

He's still fun, just kind of difficult to keep alive.. lol.

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Orsan
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Replied On: 04/10/2014 at 12:36 PM PDT

I had trouble with groups of 4 or more enemies until I started using Overload. Once I did that I could handle anything.

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Kalizaar
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Replied On: 04/10/2014 at 01:08 PM PDT

Yeah, using Overload made me go from dying quite often if I wasn't careful to just dying a fair amount.. lol. I think I just am spoiled at having siphons and heals. I'm sure it'll get better as I get better equipment/stats and a few more skills for the build.

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Orsan
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Replied On: 04/10/2014 at 01:28 PM PDT

I think not having heals forces you to focus more on dodging and blocking attacks. It does for me at least.

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Kalizaar
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Replied On: 04/14/2014 at 07:28 AM PDT

Getting Endless Fury on my bar helped quite a bit. Things die much quicker with that extra burst of damage when they're below 20%. Getting better and better as I get the proper tools.. heh.

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Orsan
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Replied On: 04/14/2014 at 08:07 AM PDT

I've been using Executioner instead of Endless Fury as my finisher, personally. It is still on my second bar, though. Having a ranged finisher comes in handy.

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Orsan
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Replied On: 04/14/2014 at 08:10 AM PDT

Also, an update on my progress. I hit 27 last night and got the Surge ability. Oh my goodness.

With my blue level 26 hammer (crafted by yours truly), my base weapon damage is 74. With surge active, it's 96. Uppercut sneak attacks hit for about 600. It's beautiful.

Thane, level 27



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Hygeliac
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Replied On: 05/01/2014 at 10:36 AM PDT
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Thane build at 50.....

 

I have just reached 50 using the sorc/2h & Sorc/DW build.  I have to say i really love it. It is extremly versitile and has been able to get through all of the leveling bosses without help. (some did take a bit of work, and some kicked my butt till i made an adjustment).

I concentrated primarilly on Storm abilities, with Dark being secondary. the Curse was about the only Summoning ability I used with any consistancy.

For weapons, i used both 2H and DW as the fancy strikes. they both have realy good synergy with different parts of the Sorc Skills. For both i prefer Axes for both story/concept reasons and for the bleeds. I would swithch back and forth to level both, and as the fight demanded. 2H is IMO better against a single or boss opponent. working with Storm armor and Surge or Momentum. The charge ability also makes changing opponents both fun and entertaining. (flying Nord! "death from above").  Dual Wield seemed better against multiple melee opponents (Sparks rule) and in synergy with the Dark CC abilities to stack damage buffs.

I will normally have 1 bar set as ranged, with 2H equipped for charge. Started fights with Crystals for KD, the add Curse and either a lightning bolt/soul grab/Entropy(Mage Guild). Then charge into battle and swap to melee bar. This bar would have 1 armor buff, 1 weapon buff or CC and 2-3 weapon abilities.

For armor i wore a mix for most of leveling. About 1/2 heavy rest medium with at least 1 light peice.

Again, i am having a blast with this build.

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Orsan
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Replied On: 05/01/2014 at 11:33 AM PDT

Awesome, Hygeliac. I'm glad you're enjoying it. Thanks for your post!

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Replied On: 08/01/2015 at 05:07 PM PDT
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Hi all,

 I hate to necro old threads but this thread actually is what brought me back to ESO. I played DAOC back in the day, not with Gaiscioch but on Gaheris and I loved my Thane. Still to this day, it is my favorite class in an MMO. I thought about trying to do a similar build and then came across this thread and needless to say my interest was piqued. I am not sure if @Orsan is still playing ESO or around the forums but I also was curious if someone was doing a similar build or had experience with a similar build. 

 

My thoughts was to mimic the Thane the best I could and this comes as close as anything I have seen.

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Doreth
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Replied On: 08/01/2015 at 05:21 PM PDT

i know they are making a few changes to sorcs in 1.7, but I know of a few ppl that run stam base sorcs out in pvp and wreck ppl with it.  I my self have one started but gave up on lvling just well because it would be my 5th toon I want to get to vr lvl....

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Replied On: 08/02/2015 at 01:55 PM PDT
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So far, and it is early on, its fun as heck to play but I die a lot. I do not die as much on my NB so that is taking some getting use too but it may just be learning a new skill set and setup.

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Replied On: 08/02/2015 at 02:49 PM PDT

 Best  2H sorc I`ve seen is Fengrush  he solo`s  half a Warband wish i  stayed alive long enough to see what he`s running  HA HA 

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Replied On: 08/02/2015 at 04:25 PM PDT

yeah fengrush was a pain.  he would blink in to stun you, then wrecking blow you a few times and then execute.....  I figure his main bar would be about this

 

blink( forget the real name of it)

wrecking blow

executioner

rally

I would think he would use crit surge  or something like caltrops to slow you down

 

smiting dawnbreaker for ult

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