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1.6 Boot Camp

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Posted On: 12/22/2014 at 01:04 PM

Hi friends, 

So if you haven't heard yet update six is going to change a few things. The developers jokingly called it 'ESO 2.0' on ESO Live Friday, and I think its probably more accurate than funny. That is not meant to sound negative though! I'm really excited for update six, but it is important to realize just how much is changing so that we know what to expect and can meet the changes with eagerness and excitement - not stress and resentment. The worst thing you could do is not learn any information about 1.6 until it hits the live servers. If you do that, you are going to have a bad time.

I'm sure you've all heard at least a few things by now though! If you haven't yet I highly highly recommend watching ESO Live Episode 8 from this past Friday. There was a lot of information provided about the champions system changes as well as some skill changes that you'll want to know about ahead of time. The entire character build system is changing quite drastically, and as a result we are all going to be re-building our characters when 1.6 hits live. This will impact you regardless of your play-style or content preferences. 

An update with this much change could also really really benefit from extra testing. The more the better!

1.6 Boot Camp on the PTS

It is for these reasons that I plan to spend a considerable amount of time on the PTS in January, and I welcome and encourage you all to join me. I was thinking the weekend it hits the PTS we could hold a long theory-crafting session(s) where we just chat on RC about the changes while we respec our characters in the new build system. Then we can move on to trying out our new builds across the different content of Tamriel to see how things feel compared to today (I'm particularly interested to see how the changes impact OP builds in PvP). 

And then there is the whole Justice System to play with too!! 

If you are interested in spending time on the PTS please chime in so I can get an idea for the level of interest. Either way I recommend reading Deltias Top Five Things to Do Before Champion System (includes info for getting on the PTS). 

Last Edited on: 12/22/2014 at 01:05 PM
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Replied On: 12/22/2014 at 01:08 PM PST
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I also plan on hitting up the PTS quite a bit when 1.6 drops on it.  I love theory crafting and will of course participate in this.  You know if/when/how they are doing character copies?

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Replied On: 12/22/2014 at 01:56 PM PST

if i'm online at the same time as you guys i will be participating.  I may only give limited input but i will listen and answer with my opinion when asked.  See you on PTS in the New Year

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Joojoobees
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Replied On: 12/23/2014 at 03:49 AM PST

Thanks for that link. I knew there were some big changes coming, but I had no idea how BIG the change was going to be. Seems like it will be an interesting couple of months as everyone tries to figure out how they want to rebuild in this new world.

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Doreth
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Replied On: 12/23/2014 at 05:26 AM PST

I will be on pts for sure, I want to be able to rock out my Templar as soon as the patch goes on live....  I like the idea of us talking about what we learn,  think we have enough interest in this to have a meeting about it every weekend... this patch should be on pts for at least 4-6 weeks I imagine so having a meeting weekly meetings would allow us to try out stuff and then talk about it and share everything we have learnt...  now I haven't been on pts for a while but do we still have guilds in there, or should we work one in just so its easier for us all to communicate... 

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delaDude
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Replied On: 12/23/2014 at 07:08 AM PST

On the character copy, details are still pending but it sounds like the EU players will get their copies transferred to the PTS first this time (forum link). We may need to use character templates the first few weeks of PTS.

About guilds on the PTS, I'm actually not sure because I have not played on the PTS at all yet. Update six is finally motivating me to make extra space on my machine for the install, ha. I suspect we'll need to create a PTS guild, but good question! We'll def want to plan for that if so.

A weekly meeting to knowledge share and theory-craft is exactly what I was thinking as the foundation for the 'boot camp' activities. Doing it on the weekend should help in finding a time that works well across (most?) of our timezones as well. What do you think would work best? Saturday or Sunday ~5-8PM PST?

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papo64
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Replied On: 12/23/2014 at 08:56 AM PST

even if PTS does not have a guild surely we can us one of the RC channels as a dedicated PTS zone chat.  How does that sound.

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Briseadh
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Replied On: 12/23/2014 at 09:17 AM PST
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I will be on PTS as well for this one and if you read any of my own posts I have been encouraging people to do this.  You can have guilds on there.  If we want to we can set up one with some quick name to have in game chat as well as RC to help coordinate things.  I rather not use Gaiscioch as the name there, not because I don't want people to know, because the name is Fog's creation and I highly doubt he has time to also run a short term PTS guild.  Due to character wipes and resets guilds can disappear between tests.

Anyway, I'll be there and don't mind setting up a simple guild with some crazy name just to keep us a little organized there.  And I'm the one that always jokes about mayhem.  hmm?  ;)

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Replied On: 12/24/2014 at 05:54 AM PST

Sadly I will not be joining you on the PTS, at this time. I have paid enough to play test ESO. I love the idea of ESO, I just have trouble with it's initial implementation. Since this is the 4th or 5th game to fail to achieve stated goals at release I am lacking the trust needed to convince me to to pay to have access to the PTS. I will wait until after they have fixed what is broken and made the game that they said they were going to.

 

I will say this however, I appreciate your efforts and will be watching for your reviews and opinions. Not to put to much stress on the few dedicated ESO players out there but, I will be looking for you few to convince me to return to ESO.

 

To those testers among us, thank you.

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Doreth
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Replied On: 12/24/2014 at 01:31 PM PST

would be nice if eso would open up pts to players that have previously subbed...  would be a great marketing play to get ppl to give eso another chance.. not sure if any of us have enough pull to tell them that but im sure it would bring in a lot of ppl into there test server

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Replied On: 12/29/2014 at 07:08 PM PST

I will join in on the pts.

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delaDude
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Replied On: 12/30/2014 at 09:37 AM PST

That would be a nice idea Doreth, and I definitely understand those that share your viewpoint Snazz.. IMO the game was released a year too soon, and I'm hopeful that updates 6 and 7 will bring the game to the point it should have been at when it launched. We'll see how it goes!

While we patiently await for the PTS update here's a nice Q&A that the people at Tamriel Foundry put together from an interview with one of the game designers.

http://tamrielfoundry.com/2014/12/champion-system-qa-pt1/

http://tamrielfoundry.com/2014/12/champion-system-qa-pt2/

There are some nice nuggets of info in there so check it out! I particularly found the section discussing ultimates in part 2 very interesting.

Another point of order we should get out of the way is a PTS guild name! 
Since Bri was gracious enough to volunteer to set it up I vote for the name: "Bri's Brigade"! Another name I quite like comes from my love of Big Lebowski: "los Duderinos".  

Whatever we choose we might as well have some fun with it, right?! =D

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Replied On: 12/30/2014 at 11:02 AM PST
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"los Duderinos", it really ties the room together

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Replied On: 01/01/2015 at 07:04 PM PST
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I am in!  I have PTS ready to when it launches.

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Replied On: 01/02/2015 at 08:03 AM PST
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Oh lordie help me now!  LOL

Los Duderinos, huh?  ::shakes her head laughing::

Anyway, my idea that we can load this patch on Monday seems way more likely since it isn't ready today and it is Friday.  Thinking this also because they would have the full support ready to go next week after all this fun holiday hoopla.  Rather be able to have the support around so we can be sure for help if things are really wonky.  =)

Be ready to really type up feedback.  You start telling me an idea, I will say okay let's hammer this out and then YOU get to write it up all nicely for Zenimax.  ::chuckles::  So I look forward to some fun discussions and lots of good input we can throw at Zenimax to hopefully improve on the idea the best they can.

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papo64
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Replied On: 01/02/2015 at 09:05 AM PST

My vote for guild name is an amalgamation

 

"Los Duderinos Gaze"

 

the gaze is the microscope bri is going to put on pts and write her 10,000 word dissertation about what is right /wrong with 1.6 LOL

 

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Replied On: 01/05/2015 at 03:03 PM PST
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Some quick news about 1.6 PTS -

We are still planning to push Update 6 to PTS this month. We'll be sure to post further details when we can.

 
 

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/comment/1458166/#Comment_1458166

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delaDude
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Replied On: 01/05/2015 at 04:10 PM PST

Yeah, it doesn't sound like its going to drop this week. 

In other news I've been talking to my two other guilds (House Reddoran and Neon Grind) about collaborating on the PTS and they both expressed interest in the idea. 

What do you think of creating one guild for us all on the PTS? An Update Six Amalgamation, if you will, to increase knowledge share and grouping opportunities for those interested in the PTS. 

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Briseadh
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Replied On: 01/07/2015 at 07:42 AM PST
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This sounds really cool delaDude.

BTW, is House Reddoran one of the Dunmer RP guilds I'm know of?

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delaDude
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Replied On: 01/07/2015 at 01:10 PM PST

No, but its possible that there is a House Reddoran Dunmer RP guild. When the ESO subreddit fist formed they created a guild, but it has since splintered into several guilds across the NA/EU servers and three alliances. 

This House Reddoran is a causal bunch of redditors that play on NA EP. 

Tonight I'm going to create a google plus community to foster communications between guilds. We can add a poll to vote for guild names on google plus once I get it set up.. that might be fun :P

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Replied On: 01/07/2015 at 03:23 PM PST

Scratch that. Having to use our real names on G+ is a non-starter for a few different reasons..

 

 

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delaDude
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Replied On: 01/08/2015 at 10:00 AM PST

Yesterday Jessica replied to a forum post with some more interesting info about some of the changes in 1.6.

Check it out!

Highlights:

  • siege damage can no longer be mitigated by armor
  • magicka aoe skills will now be blockable.

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Replied On: 01/08/2015 at 10:03 AM PST
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Replied On: 01/08/2015 at 04:04 PM PST

Haha, yeah there is some good discussion on the reddit thread :)

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Replied On: 01/09/2015 at 08:49 AM PST
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If anyone wants to test stuff in Cyrodiil I have an AD V12 and will have a DC V1 ready to go by the time it hits PTS.  Feel free to let me know and I can be a target dummy :)

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Replied On: 01/09/2015 at 08:55 AM PST
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::rubs hands together thinking of ways they can nuke the Nuke::  HA HA

of course, we need to see when they actually put this thing out there and lets hope it gets tested long enough to fix at least the major things before they throw it on live.  =)

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Replied On: 01/09/2015 at 01:42 PM PST
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I was think of how many ways I could run around catching meatbags, oil pots and fiery ballista bolts.  Or I could just continue dying on my horse like usual....snipe, heavy attack, poison arrow, heavy attack, poison arrow :)

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Replied On: 01/09/2015 at 05:02 PM PST

I'll probably go back and forth between the regular server and the PTS. I definitely want to experiment around with the changes to heavy and light armor, the effects of champion points on armor-related benefits (being heavy armor with high magicka recovery, for example) and see how the changes to ultimate generation flows in real-game situations.

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Replied On: 01/09/2015 at 05:54 PM PST

NukeLaCoog = Star Trek Red Shirt only if AD or DC :) LOL

 

take one in the knee for the guild and i will send you a prize, it just may be worth something

 

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